Crop rotation - help on what to plant where.

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Permalink Reply by Colin Robinson on April 7, 2012 at 22:56

I would remove sweetcorn, tomatoes and fennel from the equation and you've got it about right. Onions like a bit of 'muck' in the ground but root crops don't so be careful there. Put the pumpkins, etc with the rhubarb.

Salads can be intercropped or grown in any space that's available. Often you can get a crop of radish or lettuce before a slower growing crop is ready. I grow all my salad crops in containers which can be moved around the garden wherever they'll fit in.

The reason for the conflicting advice is that if you ask two gardeners the same question you'll get three different answers.

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Permalink Reply by Fred Hogg on April 8, 2012 at 7:06

The legumes leave nitrogen in the soil, but are all pulled by autumn, over winter a lot of the nitrogen is washed out, so if you want to fix N. you are better of growing an over wintering Green manure.......

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Permalink Reply by Darren Blick on April 8, 2012 at 8:35

Best advice you can get, is to get a gardening book

They will all have this in it

Most have a little diagram telling you what you can plant in what sequence 

Here is a good little article for you

Crop Rotation

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Permalink Reply by Fred Hogg on April 8, 2012 at 9:18

I would respectfuly query rotating onions, Robinsons, the mammoth onion growers have grown on the same beds for 140 years. And I am now setting my onion bed up, as a permanent bed. BUT tou have to adhere to a strict hygiene routine, see    www.mammothonion.co.uk

Flighty said:

Here's the RHS webpage on the subject Crop rotation which is clear and concise, so should be helpful.  

Many people who grow vegetables on allotments or in gardens don't really bother or haven't the space to rotate crops. I only do so with onions and potatoes with everything else going anywhere.

I agree with what Samantha says about not worrying about it, etc.  

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Permalink Reply by Fred Hogg on April 8, 2012 at 9:32

I was not aware, that you worked for the Diplomatic Service ??? :(
 
Darren Blick said:

Best advice you can get, is to get a gardening book

They will all have this in it

Most have a little diagram telling you what you can plant in what sequence 

Here is a good little article for you

Crop Rotation

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Permalink Reply by Darren Blick on April 8, 2012 at 9:51

LOL

I agree with your comment about not rotating onions. I have always been told, if you find a good spot which they grow on, don't move them. Of course the right spot will have the right nutrients which you would have thought could be given to a new spot but for some reason, I haven't managed to do this yet.

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Permalink Reply by Fred Hogg on April 8, 2012 at 10:07

Well, I do not need to tell the best veg. grower in the South what nutrients onions require. but for others out there:- Manure, Bonemeal, Sulphate of Potash in the Autumn

Early Spring feed of Hydrated Lime, Super Phosphates or Calcified Seaweed.

Follow this recipe and you might get a 17 pound and 15.5 ounce onion.......

 
Darren Blick said:

LOL

I agree with your comment about not rotating onions. I have always been told, if you find a good spot which they grow on, don't move them. Of course the right spot will have the right nutrients which you would have thought could be given to a new spot but for some reason, I haven't managed to do this yet.

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Permalink Reply by Darren Blick on April 8, 2012 at 16:49

You might have to tell me though

I am useless with onions

There is a standing joke down here, how long I can keep them alive until I lose the lot

I lost over 100 kelsae already this year but have managed to keep approx 150 of vento and toughball going

Not saying they are any good though

I believe some people make an onions mix up and pot their onions using that

I do not know of such a mix, so simply use No.2 then no.3 then plant out with plenty of manure

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Permalink Reply by Malagrowther on April 8, 2012 at 19:37

You need a 5 way rotation

 

Potatoes/Legumes (peas and beans)& Curcubits(Courgettes, Pumpkins Squashes)/Brassicas/Alliums & Curcubits/Other roots(parsnips carrots)

 

 

Then you squeeze the curcubits (and anything else like spinach beetroot wherever you have room between the legumes and the alliums) 

 

 

Put your tomatoes in your greenhouse.

 

 

Whatever you do, rotate your alliums (Onions Leeks Garlic) or you will get white rot.

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Colin Robinson on April 8, 2012 at 20:01

Whatever you do, rotate your alliums (Onions Leeks Garlic) or you will get white rot.

So how come the people with onion beds don't get white rot?

As it happens I do tend to rotate mine but the plot is small and the distance they move each year is only a few metres so not really enough to prevent the movement of spores.

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Permalink Reply by Malagrowther on April 8, 2012 at 20:57

So how come the people with onion beds don't get white rot?

 

Don't know, but they're a lot luckier than me!

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Permalink Reply by bonniescot on April 8, 2012 at 21:38

thanks everyone I do have several gardening books but they all say something different.

planted potatoes and onions today to get things growing.  what about strawberries - pots?

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